The Road to Area 51
After decades of denying the facility’s existence, five former insiders speak out
Annie
Jacobsen
Built in Burbank, the OXCART needed cumbersome transport to Area 51, with road signs removed, road banks leveled and trees axed.
Area 51. It's the most famous military institution in the world that doesn't officially exist. If it did, it would be found about 100 miles outside Las Vegas in Nevada's high desert, tucked between an Air Force base and an abandoned nuclear testing ground.
Then again, maybe not-- the U.S. government refuses to say. You can't drive anywhere close to it, and until recently, the airspace overhead was restricted--all the way to outer space. Any mention of Area 51 gets redacted from official documents, even those that have been declassified for decades.
It has become the holy grail for conspiracy theorists, with UFOlogists positing that the Pentagon reverse engineers flying saucers and keeps extraterrestrial beings stored in freezers. Urban legend has it that Area 51 is connected by underground tunnels and trains to other secret facilities around the country. In 2001, Katie Couric told Today Show audiences that 7 percent of Americans doubt the moon landing happened--that it was staged in the Nevada desert. Millions of X-Files fans believe the truth may be "out there," but more likely it's concealed inside Area 51's Strangelove-esque hangars--buildings that, though confirmed by Google Earth, the government refuses to acknowledge.
The problem is the myths of Area 51 are hard to dispute if no one can speak on the record about what actually happened there. Well, now, for the first time, someone is ready to talk--in fact, five men are, and their stories rival the most outrageous of rumors. Colonel Hugh "Slip" Slater, 87, was commander of the Area 51 base in the 1960s. Edward Lovick, 90, featured in "What Plane?" in LA's March issue, spent three decades radar testing some of the world's most famous aircraft (including the U-2, the A-12 OXCART and the F-117). Kenneth Collins, 80, a CIA experimental test pilot, was given the silver star. Thornton "T.D." Barnes, 72, was an Area 51 special-projects engineer. And Harry Martin, 77, was one of the men in charge of the base's half-million-gallon monthly supply of spy-plane fuels. Here are a few of their best stories--for the record:
On May 24, 1963, Collins flew out of Area 51's restricted airspace in a top-secret spy plane code-named OXCART, built by Lockheed Aircraft Corporation. He was flying over Utah when the aircraft pitched, flipped and headed toward a crash. He ejected into a field of weeds.
Almost 46 years later, in late fall of 2008, sitting in a coffee shop in the San Fernando Valley, Collins remembers that day with the kind of clarity the threat of a national security breach evokes: "Three guys came driving toward me in a pickup. I saw they had the aircraft canopy in the back. They offered to take me to my plane." Until that moment, no civilian without a top-secret security clearance had ever laid eyes on the airplane Collins was flying. "I told them not to go near the aircraft. I said it had a nuclear weapon on-board." The story fit right into the Cold War backdrop of the day, as many atomic tests took place in Nevada. Spooked, the men drove Collins to the local highway patrol. The CIA disguised the accident as involving a generic Air Force plane, the F-105, which is how the event is still listed in official records.
As for the guys who picked him up, they were tracked down and told to sign national security nondisclosures. As part of Collins' own debriefing, the CIA asked the decorated pilot to take truth serum. "They wanted to see if there was anything I'd for-gotten about the events leading up to the crash." The Sodium Pento-thal experience went without a hitch--except for the reaction of his wife, Jane.
"Late Sunday, three CIA agents brought me home. One drove my car; the other two carried me inside and laid me down on the couch. I was loopy from the drugs. They handed Jane the car keys and left without saying a word." The only conclusion she could draw was that her husband had gone out and gotten drunk. "Boy, was she mad," says Collins with a chuckle.
"We couldn't have told you any of this a year ago," Slater says. "Now we can't tell it to you fast enough."
At the time of Collins' accident, CIA pilots had been flying spy planes in and out of Area 51 for eight years, with the express mission of providing the intelligence to prevent nuclear war. Aerial reconnaissance was a major part of the CIA's preemptive efforts, while the rest of America built bomb shelters and hoped for the best.
"It wasn't always called Area 51," says Lovick, the physicist who developed stealth technology. His boss, legendary aircraft designer Clarence L. "Kelly" Johnson, called the place Paradise Ranch to entice men to leave their families and "rough it" out in the Nevada desert in the name of science and the fight against the evil empire. "Test pilot Tony LeVier found the place by flying over it," says Lovick. "It was a lake bed called Groom Lake, selected for testing because it was flat and far from anything. It was kept secret because the CIA tested U-2s there."
When Frances Gary Powers was shot down over Sverdlovsk, Russia, in 1960, the U-2 program lost its cover. But the CIA already had Lovick and some 200 scientists, engineers and pilots working at Area 51 on the A-12 OXCART, which would outfox Soviet radar using height, stealth and speed.
Col. Slater was in the outfit of six pilots who flew OXCART missions during the Vietnam War. Over a Cuban meat and cheese sandwich at the Bahama Breeze restaurant off the Las Vegas Strip, he says, "I was recruited for the Area after working with the CIA's classified Black Cat Squadron, which flew U-2 missions over denied territory in Mainland China. After that, I was told, 'You should come out to Nevada and work on something interesting we're doing out there.' "
Even though Slater considers himself a fighter pilot at heart--he flew 84 missions in World War II--the opportunity to work at Area 51 was impossible to pass up. "When I learned about this Mach-3 aircraft called OXCART, it was completely intriguing to me--this idea of flying three times the speed of sound! No one knew a thing about the program. I asked my wife, Barbara, if she wanted to move to Las Vegas, and she said yes. And I said, 'You won't see me but on the weekends,' and she said, 'That's fine!' " At this recollection, Slater laughs heartily. Barbara, dining with us, laughs as well. The two, married for 63 years, are rarely apart today.
"We couldn't have told you any of this a year ago," Slater says. "Now we can't tell it to you fast enough." That is because in 2007, the CIA began declassifying the 50-year-old OXCART program. Today, there's a scramble for eyewitnesses to fill in the information gaps. Only a few of the original players are left. Two more of them join me and the Slaters for lunch: Barnes, formerly an Area 51 special-projects engineer, with his wife, Doris; and Martin, one of those overseeing the OXCART's specially mixed jet fuel (regular fuel explodes at extreme height, temperature and speed), with his wife, Mary. Because the men were sworn to secrecy for so many decades, their wives still get a kick out of hearing the secret tales.
Barnes was married at 17 (Doris was 16). To support his wife, he became an electronics wizard, buying broken television sets, fixing them up and reselling them for five times the original price. He went from living in bitter poverty on a Texas Panhandle ranch with no electricity to buying his new bride a dream home before he was old enough to vote. As a soldier in the Korean War, Barnes demonstrated an uncanny aptitude for radar and Nike missile systems, which made him a prime target for recruitment by the CIA--which indeed happened when he was 22. By 30, he was handling nuclear secrets.
"The agency located each guy at the top of a certain field and put us together for the programs at Area 51," says Barnes. As a security precaution, he couldn't reveal his birth name--he went by the moniker Thunder. Coworkers traveled in separate cars, helicopters and airplanes. Barnes and his group kept to themselves, even in the mess hall. "Our special-projects group was the most classified team since the Manhattan Project," he says.
Harry Martin's specialty was fuel. Handpicked by the CIA from the Air Force, he underwent rigorous psychological and physical tests to see if he was up for the job. When he passed, the CIA moved his family to Nevada. Because OXCART had to refuel frequently, the CIA kept supplies at secret facilities around the globe. Martin often traveled to these bases for quality-control checks. He tells of preparing for a top-secret mission from Area 51 to Thule, Greenland. "My wife took one look at me in these arctic boots and this big hooded coat, and she knew not to ask where I was going."
So, what of those urban legends--the UFOs studied in secret, the underground tunnels connecting clandestine facilities? For decades, the men at Area 51 thought they'd take their secrets to the grave. At the height of the Cold War, they cultivated anonymity while pursuing some of the country's most covert projects. Conspiracy theories were left to popular imagination. But in talking with Collins, Lovick, Slater, Barnes and Martin, it is clear that much of the folklore was spun from threads of fact.
As for the myths of reverse engineering of flying saucers, Barnes offers some insight: "We did reverse engineer a lot of foreign technology, including the Soviet MiG fighter jet out at the Area"--even though the MiG wasn't shaped like a flying saucer. As for the underground-tunnel talk, that, too, was born of truth. Barnes worked on a nuclear-rocket program called Project NERVA, inside underground chambers at Jackass Flats, in Area 51's backyard. "Three test-cell facilities were connected by railroad, but everything else was underground," he says.
And the quintessential Area 51 conspiracy--that the Pentagon keeps captured alien spacecraft there, which they fly around in restricted airspace? Turns out that one's pretty easy to debunk. The shape of OXCART was unprece-dented, with its wide, disk-like fuselage designed to carry vast quantities of fuel. Commercial pilots cruising over Nevada at dusk would look up and see the bottom of OXCART whiz by at 2,000-plus mph. The aircraft's tita-nium body, moving as fast as a bullet, would reflect the sun's rays in a way that could make anyone think, UFO.
In all, 2,850 OXCART test flights were flown out of Area 51 while Slater was in charge. "That's a lot of UFO sightings!" Slater adds. Commercial pilots would report them to the FAA, and "when they'd land in California, they'd be met by FBI agents who'd make them sign nondisclosure forms." But not everyone kept quiet, hence the birth of Area 51's UFO lore. The sightings incited uproar in Nevada and the surrounding areas and forced the Air Force to open Project BLUE BOOK to log each claim.
Since only a few Air Force officials were cleared for OXCART (even though it was a joint CIA/USAF project), many UFO sightings raised internal military alarms. Some generals believed the Russians might be sending stealth craft over American skies to incite paranoia and create widespread panic of alien invasion. Today, BLUE BOOK findings are housed in 37 cubic feet of case files at the National Archives--74,000 pages of reports. A keyword search brings up no mention of the top-secret OXCART or Area 51.
Project BLUE BOOK was shut down in 1969--more than a year after OXCART was retired. But what continues at America's most clandestine military facility could take another 40 years to disclose.
ANNIE JACOBSEN is an investigative reporter who sat for more than 500 interviews after she broke the story on terrorists probing commercial airliners. When she isn't digging into intelligence issues for the likes of the National Review, she's snapping together Legos with her two boys.
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About 1964 I was hunting in the Eastern Sierra above Big Pine. it was about noon and the deer were not moving so I laid down by and was eating a sandwich when I heard a plane which sounded like it was very high. I could just make it out with my binoculars and it was like no other plane I had ever seen. I was a radar tech in the USAF and was then the radio shop lead man for a non sched airline out of Oakland. When i got back to work I described this plane o my fellow workers but they thought I must have distorted my view. A few months later Aviation Week published a picture of the SR 71, that was what I had seen. Later I worked for Lockheed in Ontario and had an offer to work on a project, but the contract was canceled before I could go. The people on that project flew out of Burbank every Monday morning.
Posted by: David_U | 03/23/2010 at 09:47 PM
"their stories rival the most outrageous of rumors."
NOT!
Obviously, all that UFO stuff was baloney but people still believe it. These guys are telling the truth and it doesn't come close to rivaling the outlandish UFO stories people believe.
Posted by: James | 03/23/2010 at 10:58 PM
Oh please old news. How Silly.
Area 51 was an Air Force test area up in the north east corner of the Nevada Test Site forever. There was even a Nevada Cat House outside the NTS gate over on the East side for the workers there.
When I worked a student summer job at NTS in the mid 70's the Air Force was testing the Rockwell B-2 in Area 51.
They shot test missiles from Tonopah over to land there. A few years later everybody was trying to figure out what "Aurora" was. Some "black" aircraft that people thought they saw a few times over there.
NTS had summer jobs in the 70's for all the lab college kids from LASL in particular. They also had CETA jobs there under other funding for different college kids. I shared a room with an entomology student in Mercury one summer.
It is all Nellis AFB now and Area 51 is fading to history.
(Now the big fight is about using Nye County sunshine on Nellis for solar projects. In the 1970 Sandia NL took over the old Nuclear Rocket Engine facility just behind the gate at Mercury for solar research when alternative energy was hot then. They had old radioactive engines hanging on stands by the road there not too far from the empty $600 million labs and housing for the project and Sandia moved into them. But that is another story.)
All the UFO stuff and Blue Book is BS claptrap the media hyped up far, far more than it ever was. It is a completely out of fashion now and just a tourist draw in Nevada. Kind of like Nessie over in Scotland.
Ghost towns of the old west from the last century.
Posted by: Nevada Smith | 03/23/2010 at 11:04 PM
I dare you to say that the OXCART could change direction 90 degrees on a dime.
Posted by: John Dingler | 03/24/2010 at 12:46 AM
There are some inaccuracies in this article - I have seen the relatively famous video where Secretary of Defense – William Perry admitted to the existence of the base. I can even quote him: “We do have a military operation going on at Groom Lake [area 51], Highly Classified and Highly Important to US Security”. The author's claim that the government refuses to acknowledge area 51 is quite simply incorrect. A bit surprised at the fact-checking miss by LAT editors.
Posted by: jeff lopez | 03/25/2010 at 11:30 AM
I lived in N.M. way out in the country in 1978. One day my truck broke down on the way home from a town laundry trip. I took one laundry bag on my shoulder and started walking the last three miles to my isolated abode.
Suddenly, as I turned a corner, I saw a space ship less than 30' from me.
It was small, hovering, silent. The second I recovered from my shock and began to investigate, it spiraled up and away.
I knew it was a true space ship, but I thought it was from outer space, not from Area 51. Later I thought our government might have this technology. I just know what I saw before my eyes in broad daylight less than 30 feet from me.
Posted by: Kya Kosmeya | 03/25/2010 at 01:41 PM
Area 51 is a decoy for area 52.
Posted by: Amy Tillem | 03/27/2010 at 05:26 PM
It took millions of years for hominids to come up with computers. It will take millions yet to find intelligent life outside of earth. So forget it! :-)
Posted by: charles | 03/28/2010 at 12:11 AM
The article reminds me of the investigation that took place after 9/11..it is incomplete and misleading...the A12 might for some explain some of the sightings..but anyone who knows military aircraft would never mistake it for a UFO and the U2 and MIG arent even worth discussing as Col George Nelson USAF (ret) said "so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."
Posted by: Mark Towers | 03/28/2010 at 11:53 AM
You like that peyote stuff, Kya?
Posted by: StraightNate | 03/28/2010 at 01:50 PM
Really doubt the B-2 was being tested in the 1970s as the B-1 wasn't built until the mid-1980s and was being tested at Groom Lake along with F-117s and the prototype F-22s.
The B-2 was built across the runway from B-1 production at Plant 42, in the 1990s.
Posted by: cb debris | 03/28/2010 at 10:30 PM
Hey Charles, why is it so hard to believe we that intelligent life exists out among the Trillions of stars and planets in the Universe, even some leading scientists at SETI say it will be only a matter of time before we make some form of contact with said alien life. Now the whole Area 51 thing is definitly untrue, that i will admit, but to say it will take millions of years to find intelligent life outside our planet is kinda silly.
Posted by: Chris Holcomb | 04/03/2010 at 07:43 AM
i am a cia agent and i promise any one who even thinks of coming close to area 51 again will die
Posted by: ? | 04/13/2010 at 06:14 AM
What's a Rockwell B-2, Nevada Smith?? No such thing, clown. How silly.
Posted by: Spaceflightengineer | 04/21/2010 at 11:21 AM
There are all kinds of things they'll never tell us. I do believe that the Groom Lake base was used incident to the testing of high-tech planes, but that doesn't negate the possibility of UFOs or alien visitors, there or elsewhere.
Posted by: pluck | 04/21/2010 at 12:39 PM
classified info is on a need-to-know basis. just because these guys didn't see anything alien doesn't mean it doesn't exist. intertaining story, misinformation ?
Posted by: Paul D from Los Angeles | 05/25/2010 at 10:56 AM
Where's a photo of the disk shaped OXCART?
"The shape of OXCART was unprece-dented, with its wide, disk-like fuselage designed to carry vast quantities of fuel"
Posted by: Robert | 05/25/2010 at 12:40 PM
Yeah, can you PROVE there weren't UFOs there? I didn't think so. I went to Groom Lake about 1962, with my father, who was doing historical research bout the Death Valley 49ers and got an invitation from the owners of a mine above the lake. Even at age 11 I had to sign clearance forms. When, on the way out, we drove across Groom Lake, crossing both Air Force and Atomic Energy Commision territory, we could see buildings in the distance. At the time, my father just shrugged and said it was probably a U-2 base. No UFOs. Of course, that still leaves Roswell . . .
Posted by: Steve | 05/25/2010 at 03:20 PM
By the way, classified information is not on a need to know basis. It's on a "you can't see it if you don't have the appropriate level of clearance" basis. I had a Top Secret clearance for over 20 years and saw lots of info I didn't need to know (and, virtually always, didn't want to). And if the information is officially declassified, it's not restricted.
Posted by: Sofia | 05/25/2010 at 03:26 PM
I saw Bigfoot once. 1951, back in Sequoia National Park. Had a foot on him thirty-seven inches heel to toe. It made a sound I would not want to hear twice in my life.
Posted by: Random Witness | 05/25/2010 at 10:14 PM
To Random Witness:
Your comment sounds a lot like a quote from the movie, Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Posted by: Say What? | 05/27/2010 at 05:07 PM
Everyone knows it was illegal alien liberals at Area 51.
Posted by: 2Obtuse2 | 05/28/2010 at 03:07 PM
What is really sad about this article is the amount of money and effort that went into the OXCART and it was eventually abandoned - what a waste. Meanwhile, we still have millions starving or dying of treatable illnesses around the world. Why can't we put the same level of focus and financial resources on relieving the suffering of people who cannot help themselves? Makes me sick.
Posted by: Mary R. | 05/30/2010 at 07:15 AM
I believe in a higher power, I chose to believe in GOD....
no need for UFO's
peace to all
War is over, if U want it....
"j.lennon"
Posted by: west | 11/24/2010 at 07:29 PM
We were hiking in Lassen National Park up from Warner Valley and looked up to see a flying wing, later found out to the B2 about 4000 feet above us. All I thought of was Groom Lake. I was right.
Posted by: me.yahoo.com/a/nzJXv8E8lfmTU.FKHTPwGPPPNjcTrqYghE6DZew- | 12/03/2010 at 04:36 PM
Don't worry, Jim. Have never seen a 'Red Rocket' or 'Dynamite' yet without a little white. They're like that all over my neighborhood.
Posted by: ugg on sale | 12/14/2010 at 06:30 PM
I always just hate to burst the bubble of all those who want so badly to believe that UFO's are people from other planets, or even Star Systems.
A very wise man (very wise) came up with a most profound fourmla, profound in its simplicity, it is:
E=MC(Squared)
Now that that little formula has been proven to be correct through observation, anyone traveling to Earth will have an extremely difficult problem.
You see, due to Alberts formula, they need infinite power as their space ship approaches the speed of light.
And even nuclear power is not infinite.
So, unless some of you UFO people want to postulate something really "out there", like trans-generational travel, it just is not reasonable.
And even trans-generational is not, due to the effects of radiation on sperm/eggs, etc.
Sorry to throw such a wrench in it but ... there may be others "out there" ... but they're going to stay "out there" and we'll stay here.
Now we may someday establish a form of 200 year late communication ... But that's about the best we can hope for.
Have a Happy New Year!
Posted by: Jim Jenia | 12/29/2010 at 07:18 PM
"I believe in a higher power, I chose to believe in GOD...."
The existence of UFOs is far more likely.
Posted by: pepe | 12/29/2010 at 07:49 PM
I have a simple question about the photo showing a truck with a wide and obviously heavy load. What does the transport of the Hale telescope mirror up Palomar mountain in 1947 have to do with Area 51.
Posted by: zeek wolfe | 12/31/2010 at 09:37 AM
That's not a mirror, those are Blackbird airframes being transported from Burbank to Area 51. They used those trailers to conceal the contents, and reassembled the jets for flight at Groom Lake. FInd any book on the Blackbird and you can see images of the exact same thing, and often the exact same picture.
Posted by: Sean | 03/16/2011 at 11:46 AM
Article lost its credibility, when you don't say that A-12 oxcart program, was the origin of SR-71 Blackbird Plane known for years..........
Posted by: Mike | 05/01/2011 at 02:19 AM
I heard about Annie Jacobsen's interview with Terry Gross and a light went on for me. I've been trying to get information on my father whom I believe was likely with the CIA from 1942 until at least 1952 (he was in Bolivia with the ambassador in La Paz during the revolution in '52.) He never talked about his work and I have only letters and anecdotal evidence. When I heard about Beetle Smith's involvement in Area 51 via the Terry Gross interview, a piece of the mystery fell into place - possibly. My aunt had a recollection of my father having to "dress down" Walter Bedell Smith in the 50s regarding "something unsavory he (Gen. Smith) was doing relative to the Soviet Union". I'm just starting Ms. Jacobsen's book but am eager to cross-check some places and dates. I'm not a crackpot; Evan Thomas (The Very Best Men/Early Days of the CIA and Newsweek) corresponded with me directly in the 80s and gave his opinion that my father was likely a CIA operative. I hope to glean more clues from reading the Area 51 book and perhaps correspond with Ms. Jacobsen. I've conducted two FOIA requests with little or no results.
Perry Norton
PanRight Productions
Posted by: Perry Norton | 05/19/2011 at 01:05 PM
lol it's just too much to imagine the look on the wife's face when she saw slater in the tundra gear. literally knew not to ask!!
Posted by: movoto | 07/05/2011 at 02:15 PM
pretty well pictured. I wonder what the truck carries and to where it is going. Why do security tightens at some places indifferently?
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It is interesting to know the fact about Area 51. I too doubt why it is so secret? may be it is good to avoid such questions since Government keeps it confidential and there will be some strong reason for it.
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So this place really exist,think realistic, ehy all these years they denied the existance of this place?its nuclear area testing?no guys,is something more.
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I worked on the SR-71 while it was still top secret. I started as a trainee at Lockheed and some of us were held back for 2 weeks and we did not know why. One day they put us into a bus and took us over to the building called the "Iron Curtain." This was where the Skunk Works was. No one knew what happened in there. We went to the side of the building went in a door to an elevator up to the fifth floor. When the doors opened we saw for the first time the SR-71 and masses of people working on it. When you see that scene out of Star Wars when they go out to the flight deck that is what it was like if you did not know that something like that could exist. In fact, having read Aviation Week my whole life and my father a top engineer for Kelly Johnson I thought I knew what could be done, but I had no idea when that door opened.
I was stupified. We then met with the manager of the building. To say we were impressed is to put it lightly. I then went to work on the hottest part of the plane and be trained by one of the first people on the project. What an education and place to start in the aerospace industry.
I have met someone who said they worked on Bluebook and they said they had seen the people and machines. Who Knows. One thing for sure, there are and have been other intelligent beings. The time and numbers say so.
Posted by: George Buzzetti | 08/22/2011 at 10:44 AM
What a load of crap. The A-12 OXCART is nothing more than the SR-71 Blackbird which has been known for years. This has nothing to do with the "other" work at Area 51!
Posted by: kma | 08/23/2011 at 10:05 AM
Since the speed of light is 9,460,730,472,580,8 km
About 6 trillion miles, I highly doubt we will be chosen for a visit by any type of life form.
try to understand this, Voyager 1 was launched in 1977 , as of 2011 it is only 16 light hours from the earth.
Posted by: Gary | 08/30/2011 at 07:27 AM
I worked at the Nevada Test Site 1981 to 1986 as Quality Assurance Manager for the Environmental Management Division. We were still testing Nukes then. I got to go everywhere and see everything. One day I was flying by Areq 51 checking an Air Force low level route. Area 51 tower told me to climb to 5000 feet - don't know why, but I could see the base and runway at Area 51 very clearly. The runway was twice as long as any in the world (I was an Air Force fighter pilot for 28 years) I almost got a job at Area 51 but was beat out by someone with connections.
About 1988 I was working at Indian Springs Air Base and while driving to work one morning I saw light radiating upward from the Area 51 site. It was partly cloudy and hazy and looked like Sunlight would except it was radiating up into the sky.
Posted by: George Savage | 08/30/2011 at 01:34 PM
interesting accounts, but once again the phrase "the truth is stranger than fiction" gets dealt a blow. I only wonder how much longer these tales about Area 51 and Wright Patterson regarding UFO's will be resurrected. At some point it has to fade away. Even the more fact-based 'rumors' seem to be fading away, I haven't heard about the long-awaited Aurora plane in quite some time.
Posted by: James Ravazzolo | 08/30/2011 at 04:14 PM
Wake up America. Area 51 is a government secret for reason - they don't want you to know what is really going on.
With only a minimal amount of research (i.e .reading a book or two) you can learn a lot more.
Once you start digging, you will see that our entire world is built upon lies told to the public. UFOs are part of it. There's lots more, like 9/11 deception.
You can start learning something here:
2012shockingtruth.com
Peace and love to all.
Posted by: 2012shockingtruth | 08/30/2011 at 05:33 PM
Finlay realize, the best interest of the World is not to talk about it!!!
Posted by: James Bont | 08/30/2011 at 09:48 PM
The 20th century UFOs in Area 51 seem so much less alien than the 21st century GOP in Area DofC. Reverse engineering alien spacecraft...hmmmph. Why, deep inside Area DofC, all those special GOP inside projects (the TeaParty Plane for instance) reveal a not-so-secret map for reverse-engineering the entire post-renaissance world. Their alien trumps your alien any day.
Posted by: Allan Parker | 09/01/2011 at 08:44 AM
It's really an IBM lab.
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